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Well, I'm not going to waste time with the preamble because I think I just want to get to the substance of the debate and we'll just speak to the audience. I have obviously had an audience since we've been covering this case. People know that there was a personal friendship between me and Charlie and diminishing the pursuit of something that makes sense regarding what happened on September 10th by throwing it to this is just people who are conspiracy theorists. These are people who are just trying to generate clicks. I don't think that people should be satisfied by that. I want people to remember that it's important to think. We've been lied to by the government a great many times over, I mean, just the last couple of years, if you just think of the things that we've learned about our government. And I do want to say this. What's been the most disturbing element, I think, for everyone is that not only does the narrative not make any sense, which I'm going to demonstrate I need to waste time with a preamble going through the points or trying to insult you or pretending that I've been running a podcast saying it just dreams and vibes like I Miss Cleo And that the reason why it taking so many influencers It looks like a billion industry of influencers to dispute everything Candace says It not because I on my platform saying I had a dream last night I don't think that that, I think that diminishes you as an argument. Obviously, we have presented a lot of evidence. You just presented a text message and said, this is evidence. Well, that's how this entire thing began. You're talking about how Israel got into the conversation. It was because immediately after Charlie died, one of the first things we saw was this push to make us all think and remember how much he loved Israel. It's because the prime minister of Israel, who's fighting like a 27 front war, felt that he needed to come do a little mini tour and to be strangely to state that I did not kill Charlie Kirk. But nobody was having that thought that I can remember. Nobody was going, I wonder if Bibi Netanyahu killed Charlie Kirk. And then we had a round of influencers who lied and said Charlie was not changing on Israel that he wasn having any disagreements regarding that topic that the day he died he just loved Israel so much And I demonstrated via the text message which you just mentioned and you now contextualizing and pretending it was just about Tucker Carlson which is not true It was a part of a broader shift that Charlie was having over the last, I would say, actually on your show, it began since October 7th, which is when I began asking myself more questions about Israel as well. And so, yeah, when all of these things happen in the immediate aftermath. And then I drop a text message after everyone is denying that. Tucker Carlson then comes out and confirms the conversations that he had with Charlie. Megyn Kelly then comes out and confirms the private conversations that she had with Charlie. People then begin to ask a reasonable question, which is, why are we lying about this? If they were forthcoming with that and they had said, hey, yeah, Charlie was starting to ask questions. I think after October 7th, it's reasonable that people are starting to re-examine in our relationship with Israel, we wouldn't be here today. But it has been lie after lie after lie debunk after debunk after debunk Yes I did share that I had a dream that Charlie was betrayed It not a dream anymore It a reality I look at what the organization has become the people that they are partnering with the lies that they are telling the extraordinary people that they're sending out to say that I hadn't speak to Charlie since 2018, and it begins to look like a conspiracy. And just as a historical fact, that entire term was created by the CIA to gaslight people after the assassination of JFK. so it's not exactly one that makes me nervous like calling somebody a conspiracy theorist is essentially saying that they demand further answers they're not accepting the fed slop so I'm grateful that you came today I don't need to like I said take cheap shots and discuss your manner of debate or your strategy and I'm also grateful that you shared that you have that text message today because everybody watching knows that I have been demanding not a debate just a open conversation with Turning Point USA. They should be here. It shouldn't be you in that chair. It should be the person that took Charlie's place. Maybe Erica Kirk, maybe Andrew Colbert. He's a spokesperson. And rather than doing that, they send us another influencer. So let's see how it goes.