Ana Kasparian on Political Divides
by Jolyon: Ana Kasparian
Harrison Berger asked Ana Kasparian if divisions in America are primarily about age and money, rather than left versus right. Kasparian agreed, stating the traditional left-right conflict is "mostly manufactured." She noted that regular people outside of established political parties and legacy media align on foreign policy and affordability. Kasparian also credited Tucker for challenging the idea that the right "doesn’t care about the working class," as old political lines are reportedly becoming "blurrier by the day."
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I want to start with something that I've heard you discuss before, which is this idea that the most important political divides right now in the United States aren't really felt on the left or right anymore, that there's really other categories that are probably more relevant for grouping public opinion. And, you know, I hate to say it, but I think that age is really one of them. When you look at something like support for Israel, you know, the endless wars that we're fighting on their behalf, it's largely a boomer phenomenon. You know, younger voters, and you look at polling on this, you cover it on your show extensively. Younger voters in both parties reject it. And then obviously, there's all sorts of financial divides between younger Americans and older ones in terms of who actually has and owns assets. I'm wondering if you agree on this just generally. And if you think those left right divisions are just much less relevant today than they used to be. I'm honestly beginning to realize how irrelevant and manufactured those divides have been for a long time And it because if you just step away from the two political establishments Democrats Republicans if you ignore the way stories are framed in legacy media and you just pay attention to where the hearts and minds of the American people are, you'll realize that there are big agreements on the biggest issues, the most important issues in the country. You know, I watched your interview with Tucker Carlson. I really appreciated it. I thought that it was a great interview. And what I loved about not only what he said on your show, but what he says on his own show on a regular basis is he's kind of gone against the grain when it comes to the type of marketing the mainstream Republican Party has done for themselves and what they represent, what they stand for. I was always under the impression that Republicans don't care at all, at all. The right doesn't care at all about the financial well-being of the working class. But that's clearly not true. It's clearly not true that every conservative, every Republican would like to see more deregulation to the detriment of the American people And so he been a voice that kind of cut through some of the stereotypes And that important But people in media who do that are very, very rare. And you can see why they're rare. I mean, the attack that he's dealing with right now is pretty intense. Now, putting that aside entirely, foreign policy and affordability are the two issues that are the most important and where you see widespread agreement among those on the left and the right. Now, you're right. If you just focus on older Republicans, they're certainly more in the pro-war camp. They're certainly in the more pro-corporate camp. But that is changing. It's changing rapidly. And when you look at young people, I mean, it is shocking to me how many young conservatives have gone out of their way to defend Zoran Mamdani, which I would have never expected in a million years, not because they necessarily agree with his economic policies or anything like that, but they understand where the attacks are coming from why he being attacked And they know that it due to the fact that he is one of the rare politicians who speaks out against Israel genocide in Gaza Israel undue influence over our government And I love to see that I want to see more unity in the country I see myself as someone who fed into the divisions because I was ignorant about how much I was being influenced by the way things were framed in the media. But now I'm trying to be better because I really, really think it's important to save this country. If we keep going in the direction we're going in. We're $40 trillion in debt. We have depleted our military assets, our missile interceptors, our missiles. It takes years to manufacture interceptors and missiles. We are less safe today because of the foreign policy that we have carried out at the behest of the Israelis. And so it's so important that we just put our differences aside on other matters. That's how I feel. I mean, I get it. There's disagreement when it comes to some of these culture war issues, identitarian things, whatever. That's not what's important at this moment. What's important at this moment is the economic well-being of our country, the national security of our country and the sovereignty of our country. And I'm willing to work with anyone to protect our sovereignty and to change things.
