Transcript (en)

Life after presidency. We talk about retiring from sports and trying to figure out what's next in life. How's the transition been from you away from it? Well, a couple things right after the presidency was over. Number one is I was in a deep deficit with my wife. A lot of making up to do. Time. I had a lot of making up to do. Time, travel, fun trips, hanging out. Family. Family, which was a blessing, right? And because there were certain pressures on Michelle that even I didn't fully appreciate, being the first African-American first lady, and the double standards, and how people had perceived her. And she did such an outstanding job and was beloved, but it took, you know, put some strain on her. It took a toll. So catching up with her was really important. I didn't miss, and I have not missed, all the fuss of the presidency. You know, like, you walk in a room, folks all standing up and having to wear a tie every day. I don't miss that. And you know a lot of the ceremony and the attention Like I wasn somebody who came in looking like I just needed a lot of attention Not partly because I'd gotten a lot, even during the campaigns. And what I did miss was the work. And I missed the camaraderie of doing hard stuff with a group of people. You know, you're in a foxhole when you're in the White House, right? It's like every day, pressure coming. Big decisions, life and death stakes. And, you know, it's obviously different, but it's similar to sports in the sense of that feeling of you're on a common enterprise. Pressure. And you've got pressure and stress. And if it goes right, you bond in a way that's different. You know, you hear guys in the military talking about that same kind of feeling with their unit, their guys. So I missed that. But the thing that I was excited about, and that's a lot of what this foundation's about and what this presidential center is about, is how do I train and help the next generation of leaders, the next Barack's or Michelle's who are everywhere, right?