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What do you make of this criticism, first of all, coming from people from all sides, hardliners or hawks on all sides? And is there a danger that perhaps even from the public expectation of it, because a lot of them also represent their constituents and their citizens as well, do you think we're getting ahead of ourselves in terms of this actual negotiation? Do you think even the lawmakers or the different members of parliaments that are coming out also saying this, are we getting a little too ahead of ourselves? I think I think we in terms of expectations, there should be zero expectations for any of this. You know, I think there is this again, this stark reality that we have to get the shipping open again. And that means we have to all take a bite of this sandwich. You know, and the Iranians will retain their upper hand. They will retain their dominance in all this. And if 60 days comes to pass and there is no agreement, then what have the Iranians lost? Right And the Iranians will still continue to maintain this position where they don need to make concessions For the Americans the idea being is that I think can we get through these 60 days maybe get some type of face-saving deal? The Iranians will give us something, even though they don't have to, they'll give us something because they know that we may have to go back to war. And the Iranians don't want to go back to war. I mean, they're confident in their capabilities. They're confident that they would maintain dominance and all these types of things. But still, they don't want to go back. Why would you? Why would they? And so the you know, I think what you're going to have, though, is that what any of these this list of what can the Americans sign on to? And then the same for the Israelis as well. What would the Israelis allow? The Israelis aren't going to pull out of Lebanon. They might pull out in some areas because it makes operationally or strategically make sense. But certainly I'm not going to give up with it. The war in Lebanon is incredibly popular in Israel and Likud and Benjamin Netanyahu fear that if they they don't maintain the momentum they have in terms of the conquest of Lebanon, they're going to lose in the elections in September or whenever they're going to be.