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I can't speak as to whether God spoke to this woman, but my view is he would certainly forgive her for her actions. For killing Sean Harmon. The Lord's powers of forgiveness are without limit. And in this case, there's also the eye for an eye principle. That justifies killing somebody. The phrase is to be found in the Old Testament, and I believe it speaks for itself. What about the New Testament? Jesus says, turn the other cheek, does he not? Well, my reading of that is Jesus was voicing a very personal view on how a saintly individual should act. I don't interpret that as condemning revenge. So you, a man of the cloth, don't believe that all human life is holy? I do. I also believe whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed. Genesis. I've studied Judeo-Christian teachings for 33 years. I consider myself both a biblical and a Talmudic scholar, and I found Father Marr's testimony to be strikingly without merit. Because? The I for an I verse in the Bible suggests a limitation on retribution. It is forbidden to take two I's for one, or for that matter to inflict any punishment that would exceed the offense. Yes, but the underlying offense of Sean Harmon was murder. But even so, it was never meant to advocate revenge murder. I mean consider the words of Jesus If anyone strikes you on the left cheek offer him the other as well Jesus would never have endorsed this revenge killing It was against vengeance Well except when it came to believing in him right Mark 16, 16, he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be damned. And damnation, if hell is everything it's cracked up to be, is a fate worse than the painful death that precedes it. So according to this guy, Mark, Jesus was OK with vengeance, wasn't he, Professor? If I was a Christian, I suppose I'd be very much offended by that. But you're a Jew, and certainly Jews are okay with revenge. You know something about Jewish law I don't? I know that if you cross Israel's borders without the proper invitation, the bombs, they go a-bursting. I know when Israel kidnapped Eichmann and hanged him, Jewish people the world over-cheered and... Look, first of all, Eichmann was responsible for mass murder. So it's not whether Judaism supports revenge, but when. You're offensive. Really? I was just going to say the same about you. Judaism has never been preoccupied with forgiveness. Justice, justice, you shall pursue. That's what the Torah commands. My client was pursuing justice when she avenged the death of her only daughter. What's truly offensive is you sitting high on your scholarly horse and suggesting that God, anybody's God, would condemn her for it. Moreover, I suspect if your child was murdered, had it been your child's murderer who went free, you wouldn't be pontificating about forgiveness. And when's the last time one of your kids got lodged in the death? Mr. Shaw. you